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WAT IT IS CLEARLY A FLUFFY TIGER
pinkrangerv replied to your post “Dean does nothing but beat himself up over EVERYTHING, he constantly suffers, did you not get that he feels like 99% crap or that he feels like poison despite all he ever tries to do is save people and keep the last of his family alive. Sam laid into him in the Purge with all that BS about him not wiling to get hurt and doing more harm than good, I guess Dean commiting suicide is the only thing that will satisfy Sam fans like you.”
I…what? Why did anyone say this to you?And, for the record, Anon: The one who wants Dean to end up out of Sam’s life is me, but I’d prefer Dean’s ass getting arrested or somehow retiring so Sam can know he’s happy and move on.
Man, I don’t even know.
I did feel a bit accomplished, though - I don’t normally get the disgruntled Dean fans in my askbox. Makes me feel like I’ve earned my Sam!girl stripes ^^
dreamscape-inkscape replied to your post “Dean does nothing but beat himself up over EVERYTHING, he constantly suffers, did you not get that he feels like 99% crap or that he feels like poison despite all he ever tries to do is save people and keep the last of his family alive. Sam laid into him in the Purge with all that BS about him not wiling to get hurt and doing more harm than good, I guess Dean commiting suicide is the only thing that will satisfy Sam fans like you.”
*SLAYED* CONSIDER THAT ASK SLICED TO PIECES, THAT POOR PERSON HIGH OFF DEAN’S RADIATING SULFUR YOU GO 4 FOR YOU
agelade replied to your post “Dean does nothing but beat himself up over EVERYTHING, he constantly suffers, did you not get that he feels like 99% crap or that he feels like poison despite all he ever tries to do is save people and keep the last of his family alive. Sam laid into him in the Purge with all that BS about him not wiling to get hurt and doing more harm than good, I guess Dean commiting suicide is the only thing that will satisfy Sam fans like you.”
waxwinged replied to your post “Your animagus/patronus is an owl and no one/nothing can convince me otherwise”
yes. just yes.
both. both is good.
This is unexpected.
isn’t that a bengal tiger?
No, Bengal tigers are leaner and darker than Siberian tigers. (Also you’re probably thinking of the white Siberian tigers, which are a subspecies)
We talking this kind of owl:
Or this kind of owl:
GOOD DAY TO YOU, ANON
I HOPE YOU ARE DOING WELL
AND IF YOU ARE NOT, I HOPE YOU GET SOME WARM BLANKETS AND A CUP OF HOT CHOCOLATE TO EASE YOUR TROUBLED SOUL
Because that’s really the only reason I can think of that you showed up here.
But, should you be more interested in actual discourse, let’s break this down point-by-point
1. Dean does nothing but beat himself up over EVERYTHING
Right. So when he tells Aaron “When we need the right, we’ll take it,” he’s beating himself up over it?
When he says “I did what I had to do,” he’s beating himself up over it?
When he blames Sam for everything since Season 4, not once but twice, he’s beating himself up?
When he blames Sam for being soulless, he’s beating himself up?
When he spends all of Season 8 wearing Sam down to the point that Sam would rather die than let Dean down again, Dean was beating himself up?
When Sam was hallucinating, he was beating himself up?
When he walked out on Sam being tortured by Crowley and told Cas to distract him, when he forgot that Cas needed consent to enter Sam, he was beating himself up?
When he was drowning himself in alcohol instead of helping Sam hunt, he was beating himself up?
When he tells Sam “after everything I’ve done for this family, I’m entitled” in S3, he’s beating himself up?
When he says “What I do, I do because it’s the right thing.”
Funny, seems to me like he spends more time beating Sam up.
2. he constantly suffers
… Sure, Anon. He suffers. He’s the only one. Ever.
He suffers so much that he takes on a demonic mark from the father of murder and then shuts Cain down before he can explain the side effects.
He suffers when he ignores Sam and carts the Blade around, falling under its thrall, instead of letting Sam help him, Sam who pleaded with him, and never once called him a monster, or told him he was weak.
He suffers when he spends 5000+ years in the worst part of Hell, when he hallucinates the monster who tortured and raped him, he suffers when his body is used to murder his friend without his consent, he suffers when he has nightmares about it every night - oh wait. That was Sam.
But Dean’s the one constantly suffering, right?
Anon, I agree with you that Dean suffers. He went to Hell, he suffers from alcoholism, he’s lost his friends, lost his life, been injured more times than anyone can count.
But his suffering does not absolve him of the hurt he’s visited upon others. His suffering does not absolve him of the violation he put Sam through.
3. did you not get that he feels like 99% crap or that he feels like poison
I do remember Dean saying he felt like poison, yes.
I also remember he said that after Sam had been tortured and possessed by Gadreel and Crowley. He said that and walked away, never once apologising to Sam, never once checking to see if Sam needed anything from him, never once acknowledging Sam’s feelings in any way.
He walked away and took the Impala, which was just as much Sam’s home as his, which had the best of their weapons and research and memories.
I get that he feel like crap. I get that he feels like poison.
You know who else feels dirty, feels tainted and unworthy?
You know who lashes out and hurts other people because he can’t face himself?
Do you see where I’m going with this, Anon? I understand that Dean hurts in response to the tragedy pervading his life. That does not give him the right to walk all over other people, to violate their agency and impose his will over them.
4. all he ever tries to do is save people
This is clearly why Sam had to remind him about Jody still being in danger.
This is clearly why Jody yelled at him when he said “This is not a rescue mission, this is a raid.”
This is clearly why he wiped Lisa and Ben’s memories without removing his actual presence from their lives.
This is clearly why he no longer cares about the vessels of demonic possession and goes straight to killing them.
This is why he took on the murder stamp, and repeatedly says “All that matters is killing Abaddon.”
Or “last I checked, we were in the business of killing monsters”
Those are really funny ways of spelling “All I try to do is save people,” don’t you think? I mean, I’m from India and I spell things differently, but I think that’s pushing the envelope.
Priorities matter, Anon. And Dean’s are not about saving people.
5. Sam laid into him in the Purge with all that BS about him not wiling to get hurt and doing more harm than good
SAM: I mean, Kevin’s dead, Crowley’s in the wind. We’re no closer to beating this angel thing. Please tell me, what is the upside of me being alive?
DEAN: You kidding me? You and me — fighting the good fight together.
Let me distill this down for you, Anon, with the words of @sillierthanasillylaugh:
Sam: Why am I here?
Dean: So you can play with me.
As they point out, this is the way a 7 yr old talks about their imaginary friend.
Gadreel’s possession of Sam cost them Kevin, cost them the angel tablet, which gave Metatron an enormous power boost, cost them Crowley. It further eroded Sam’s confidence in his own sanity - how do you trust Stone Number One, when Stone Number One lies?
And the end? Which fans seem to hate Sam for?
SAM: Same circumstances…I wouldn’t.
Sam is not saying he wouldn’t save Dean. He’s saying he wouldn’t save him the same way. He wouldn’t have tricked his brother into consenting to an angel if Dean had been possessed by a demon and Lucifer before, forced to kill his friends and family by the creatures possessing him. He wouldn’t have lied to Dean over and over again about why he was losing time and what was really going on inside his body, not if Dean had a history of severe mental illness, of not being sure of reality, of not knowing what his body did without his permission.
If Dean had gone through all that, Sam wouldn’t put Dean through it again.
DEAN: No way.
EZEKIEL: Understood. It’s your call.
DEAN: No, it’s Sam’s call. There’s no way in hell he’d say yes to being possessed by anything.
EZEKIEL: He would rather die.
DEAN: Then we keep it a secret for now. Or until Sam’s well enough that he doesn’t need an angelic pacemaker or I find a way to tell him. I - I… As for him being in a hospital, I’ll have to figure something out.
EZEKIEL: I can erase it all, if you like. He will not remember any of this.
So tell me, Anon, how is a few lines from Sam ‘laying into Dean’ after months of what Dean did and allowed to happen to Sam? How is his perspective bullshit?
6. I guess Dean commiting suicide is the only thing that will satisfy Sam fans like you.
I… am not entirely sure where you’re getting this idea, Anon. If I have contributed to the idea that Sam fans want Dean to commit suicide, I apologise, because I don’t want that. As I have said repeatedly, I want him to face the consequences of his actions.
Dean’s suicide does not help anyone. Dean apologising and learning from his mistakes to become a better person and a better brother does.
I’ve said my piece for now. The full depth of my feelings and perspectives can be found on my blog if you are interested.
I hope you have a good day, Anon, and a pleasurable Tumblr experience.
I KNOW I BROKE MY LAPTOP CAUSE OF DEAN THAT LITTLE BITCH but welcome quasi-back to tumblr! i’m late to the welcoming party, oh no
It’s okay, I was late to my own party =P
bahahaha like getting sick of you is possible
you’re like a siberian tiger fluffy until messed with
… Yeah, that’s pretty accurate.
dreamscape-inkscape replied to your post “keiuolari replied to your post “GO AWAY JENSEN Just reading about…”
hELL FUCKIN YEAH I WOULD ILLUSTRATE THE HELL OUT OF THIS
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ILLUSTRATE JACOB AND BEN TEARING INTO DEAN
OR DEAN’S BROKEN BODY AT THEIR FEET
OR JAKE, BEN, CLAIRE, AND JESSE DEFENDING HURT!SAM FROM DEAN
THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY AWESOME CHRISTMAS PRESENT
dreamscape-inkscape replied to your post “Hey Queen, I was lounging about, reading the SW School of Hunting when I thought of something. Do you think the Dean back in season 1 would be appalled with Dean of Season 9? I wanna say he would, but after a long bit of pondering, I’m not so sure. He’s always had that mentality of “I’ll do what I have to no matter what it takes”. Anyway, any interesting thoughts on the subject?”
fUCK YEAH I LOVE S2 DEAN AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF DEAN PISSING HIMSELF OFF THAT’S WONDERFUL BECAUSE EVEN DEaN CAN’T HANDLE S9 DEAN
dreamscape-inkscape replied to your post “Hey i noticed you mention a fic where you explore the interactions between s2!Dean and s9!Sam and Dean and i was wondering if you could maybe provide a link to it?”
i’m so pumped for this you don’t realize
I’m glad =D
Even better, S2!Sam and resurrected!Jess will be there, with the probable addition of Linda Tran and alive!Kevin
i mIss Y OUC($.:(?$;);).()64/;($!&)sarhfchgvgjcbjhhfc
I MISS YOU TOO
gAHHHHHH I UNDERSTAND IT MAKES ME BREAK THINGS LIKE MY LAPTOP AND CARDBOARD VERSIONS OF DEAN’S FACE
I FEEL LIKE I NEED CARDBOARD CUT-OUTS OF DEAN’S FACE TO TEAR INTO
I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY THERAPEUTIC
AND A BLESSING TO MY WALLET
SHE POPPED OUT OF THE SNOW! LIKE A DAISY!
There are no reaction gifs for this, and I am disappointed in the internet.
So have some more Legolas, just because I can:
Was that more in line with what you were hoping for?
YES THANK YOU
THAT WAS WHAT I WANTED
forlorn-kumquat replied to your post “keiuolari replied to your post “GO AWAY JENSEN Just reading about…”
Any chance of a SWSH fic where the trio spends the entire story hunting Dean down and beating the absolute shit out of him? Also, I love your rage.
I’m planning on rewriting Demon Heart in actual detail, and Jake, Jesse, Ben, and Claire get to tear into Dean brutally and viciously
To the point that he needs angelic healing to survive
I imagine it being very therapeutic
everwest replied to your post “pinkrangerv replied to your post “GO AWAY JENSEN Just reading about…”
remind me not to piss you off.
shh what are you talking about I am completely harmless
forlorn-kumquat replied to your post “superlology replied to your post “keiuolari replied to your post “GO…”
Sadly Sam is not on that list, which is a pity because he should be right at the top but he’s blinded by his love for Dean (and he’s probably the only reason the first three on the list haven’t killed Dean yet). Dean does not deserve him.
Sam is on the list of people who forgive Dean when they really fucking shouldn’t.
And yes, he is very much the reason they haven’t killed Dean yet.
forlorn-kumquat replied to your post “pinkrangerv replied to your post “GO AWAY JENSEN Just reading about…”
See, I would be happy if Dean simply disappeared off the face of the earth, and the show simply became Sam having fun and making friends and adopting puppies. I don’t care how illogical it is; I just want Dean gone.
This is something I do struggle with in SWSH. Because I want Dean gone, but for some unfathomable reason, Sam doesn’t. So he has to sort of stick around. But at least the focus of SWSH is on Sam and his kids, so I can pretend very hard that Dean just doesn’t exist.
pinkrangerv replied to your post “GO AWAY JENSEN Just reading about Jensen’s most recent interview is…”
To make the story go that way would invalidate almost every single thing done for the past nine seasons. The writers are actually *writers*, I don’t think they can do that without getting totally replaced by people who’ve never seen SPN before.
YOUR LOGIC IS UNWELCOME HERE MONICA
I WANT DEAN SUFFERING DAMMIT
I WANT HIM CRAWLING ON HIS BELLY THROUGH GLASS AND FIRE
*SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUSTS OUT OF SHEER RAGE*
superlology replied to your post “keiuolari replied to your post “GO AWAY JENSEN Just reading about…”
On the one hand: YAY YOU’RE BACK. On the other: ‘YAY NEW SWSH. And then, of course, the required: YESSSSS DEAN GETTING HIS ASS HANDED TO HIM BY PEOPLE HE’S FUCKED OVER.
I’m like, 50% back, don’t get your hopes up =P
There will always be more SWSH oh my god it has taken over my liiiiiiife
The list of people who will never forgive Dean:
*Sadly, will not get to enact harm on Dean in SWSH